Because Christianity is bigger than Biblical manhood or Biblical womanhood (Blog of Retha Faurie)

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The Christ as husband metaphor: It’s about love, not leadership


Why is the relationship between a husband and wife compared to the relationship between Christ and the church?

Hosea 2:16 In that day, declares the LORD, you will call me ‘my husband’; you will no longer call me ‘my master.’


The relationship is compared to the intimate relationship between a man and hs wife, because the relationship God desire with us is that of one lover to another, not of a master to a subject!

Obey the Lord? Yes, but because we love and trust him. The love and trust is central, the obedience follows when we know He is right, wise, and has our best interests at heart.

Some claim the relationship between the church and Christ is primarily one of a ruler to a subject, and want to arrange marriages that way too. I don’t pity them firstly for what they miss in their marriages, but for what they miss in their relationship with Christ.

Christ is the husband, the lover. We are heirs with the firstborn Son. True, we are also subjects of God, but the point of the church as bride picture is, according to scripture, one of love, not lordship.

Women can have authority in the church, even if helper mean what comps say it does

Premise 1) Eve was made to be a helper to Adam. (Genesis 2:18)

Premise 2) To be a helper is to be the one under authority of the helpee. (Complementarian assumption, needed to get to Conclusion A.)

Conclusion A) The man was made to have authority over his wife right from creation. (Complementarian teaching)

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 Premise 3) The congregation (males included) were told to assist Phoebe. (Rom. 16:1-2) (more…)

LaCigol and the pastor

One day,LaCigol watches a YouTube clip by a famous pastor. The pastor was asked what a wife should do when her husband abuse her. He answered that a wife should submit to abuse(1), that husbands turn abusive because their wives are not submitting(2), and if a wife is killed while submitting to abuse, it will be to God’s glory.(3)

LaCigol goes to the pastor, and introduces himself as a Bible teacher. The two of them get talking. The pastor likes what LaCigol say, and LaCigol pretends to like what the pastor say. “So”, ask LaCigol, “just to make sure our doctrine line up, what would you say is the most important reason why wives have to submit to their husbands?”

The pastor was ready with his answer: “Because the husband-wife relationship is a mirror image of the relationship between Christ and the church. Wifes should submit to show the world how the church submit to Christ. But surely you know that?”

“Of course,” agreed LaCigol. “I wanted to make sure we agree on this.” Before the end of the conversation, LaCigol was asked to preach in the pastor’s church the next Sunday. (more…)

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