Because Christianity is bigger than Biblical manhood or Biblical womanhood (Blog of Retha Faurie)

I see that my blog is often reached by people searching for: “Is Christian patriarchy biblical?” or things like that. They usually reach this article. I think that article is a great heart reason for absolute disgust with these twisted ideas. But if you Google this, you seem to be asking for head reasons – a comparison between what the Bible teaches and what Bill Gothard, Doug Phillips, ATI, IBLP, Vision Forum, etc. teaches.

I’d recommend that the askers rather go to Jensgems or to The Tenets of Unbiblical Patriarchy? Those blogs have detailed discussions, tenet by tenet, of “Christian” patriarchy. (Warning: There are unsubstantiated claims about egalitarianism and feminism on the Jensgems discussion. However, Jen takes an honest and substantiated look at the tenets of patriarchy.)

Jen comes to this conclusion:

I… found that the biblical support for Patriarchy is actually quite weak, or at least the biblical support that is used in the official “Biblical Tenets of Patriarchy” is weak… I am starting to wonder if much of it isn’t extra-biblical… Patriarchy probably falls more into the category of a personal lifestyle decision, rather than something that’s biblically mandated.

M.M. Johann of Tenets of Unbiblical Patriarchy? feels stronger about it:

The Tenets of Biblical Patriarchy … do not see scripture as sufficient. The Tenets of Biblical Patriarchy writers had to add to scripture a lot to fit their tenets…

If you want short answers:

> Here Mara Reid contrasts it to a saying by Jesus.

>Kristen Rosser  compares the woman’s role in the Quiverfull movement to how the New Testament views women, and claims patriarchal submission does not glorify God.

>Adam comments that Quiverfull is a false gospel.

>Recovering Grace writes a letter to IBPL Basic Seminar attendees. It say grace -a very central gospel concept – does not mean what Gothard say it does, and IBPL misuse the Bible.

>Cynthia Kunsman explains the problems with patriarchy here.

>And Adam Taylor Ross calls patriarchy heresy , distortion of the trinity , and a denial of Christ’s exclusive mediation

>If you actually want to read something on my blog, read this post. It shows how the patriarchial view of male headship distorts the gospel.

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Comments on: "Is Christian Patriarchy Biblical? Links" (4)

  1. I think some aspects of it are Biblical and come from a Biblical worldview. In the Old Testament, we see that a daughter’s father has the right to give her away in marriage, or to refuse to give her away in marriage. Men inherited property unless the males of the family died out. A father had the right to cancel his daughters vows the first time he heard them and a husband had a right to cancel his wife’s vows the first time he heard them.

    I Corinthians 7 may indicate that fathers gave their daughters away as well. The Gospels do speak of giving in marriage.

    In the Old Testament, the Law gave men the ability to divorce their wives (due to the hardness of their hearts.) This right was not given to women. I Corinthians 7 tells husbands not to put away their wives, and for wives not to depart from their husbands. Husbands could put away. Wives could only leave. One gospel mentions the idea of a woman putting away her husband. I heard that had happened once in Judaism, when Herodias did it to Phillip.

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    • Link, when you call it Biblical, what do you mean? https://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/why-the-blog-name/
      Is it Biblehistorymentionitical, Englishbiblical, fractionofthebibletakenasthewholetruthical, biblelawsthatnongerapplycal, or is it really what God wants for us?(The meanings of these words are given in the link above.)

      For example, it is true that 1 Cor 7 mention husbands putting away (against God’s will) and wifes leaving (against His will), but that don’t make putting away His will at all! A man does a terrible sin when pushing his wife out with nothing.
      It is not the will of a just God that men retain everything and women nothing when they seperate, it calls this putting away a sin! (If any think men could keep everything and women nothing in divorce, he proves that he is an unjust sinner. If he twists the Bible to prove his point, it is more evidence of his ugly heart. )

      Males inheriting property is not God’s law – and God actually said a man’s daughter should inherit rather than giving it to his brother or uncle.
      https://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/rumors-of-gods-patriarchalism-have-been-greatly-exaggerated-part-1-zelophehads-daughters/

      As for fathers giving away their daughters in marriage, MM Johann’s blog does discuss that aspect of Patriarchy. Suffice here to say it is largely Biblehistorymentionitical.

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    • Link, the Law reflects a patriarchal, slave-holding, tribal culture. God dealt with ancient Israel according to where it was at, in order to start moving it towards where He wanted it to be in order to send Messiah. The New Testament letters were also written within patriarchal cultures– and again we see God taking the new Christians from where they’re at, and moving them in the direction He wants them to go– to bring them into the Kingdom of God where no one is viewed according to the flesh, where there is neither male nor female, neither slave nor free, neither Jew nor Gentile. Just because something is in the Bible doesn’t make it God’s eternal, best plan for mankind.

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