Because Christianity is bigger than Biblical manhood or Biblical womanhood

I previously showed how 1 Tim. 2:11-15 cannot be taken on face value. But here is one thing in it that the complementarians don’t even take on face value, but read things into that are not supported by anything else:

Driscoll state it this way:

Without blushing, Paul is simply stating (in 1 Tim 2) that when it comes to leading in the church, women are unfit because they are more gullible and easier to deceive than men. While many irate women have disagreed with his assessment through the years, it does appear from this that such women who fail to trust his instruction and follow his teaching are much like their mother Eve and are well-intended but ill-informed”.

Oops. Methinks Driscol is the deceived and ill-informed one here. What verse does he get it from that women are more easily deceived? I will quote the passage word for word:

1Ti 2:13-14 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Note, these words does not call women deceived. Nor does it call anyone easily deceived. It say that “the woman” (Eve) was deceived, Adam was not. Both sinned. Adam sinned, we can conclude, without being deceived, which would make him a deliberate sinner.

In a testimony on the Baptist board, Scarlett O tells how she found out this truth:

I was taught all of my young life that “women are more easily deceived” and that this was supposedly a direct quote from the Bible and was the reasoning why men were given control over women. So, as a teenager I took that to mean that women were stupid and I acted accordingly. Not taking responsibility for my own actions and not using my brain – doing things that I deeply regret because, hey, I was just a dumb girl. I found out as I read the Bible for myself that neither this phrase nor this concept are in the Bible.

The Bible says that Eve, personally, not women in general, was deceived. And there is nothing in the Bible about her being EASILY deceived……which implies stupidity or inferiority. That phrase, “easily deceived” is not in Bible – from the King James Version to the Message and all versions/translations/paraphrases in between.What IS in the Bible are several passages where men and women are deceived sin and deceived by others… ~Sin deceives all people.

I was taught a lot of things about women when I was young. I was taught that Bathsheba intentionally seduced David and that David was just an innocent bystander in that adulterous affair. I was taught that Eve and therefore all women are “more easily deceived”. I was taught that these very words were in the Bible. They are not…

Then one day, I read the Bible for myself and found out that a lot of things that my traditional and fundamental background had taught me was not true…

… in a Biblical marriage, the wife is the “help” or literally as the Hebrew word (“ezer”) defines it, the “succor” or “relief”. This is the same word “help” or “succor” or “relief” that is use many times over for God, Himself. Especially by David.

… How can she be a relief to her husband if she is “easily deceived”?

Why would God create a counterpart for Adam who was stupid or gullible?

He didn’t. He created a counterpart that was “meet” for him. Appropriate for him. A counterpart. And she was, as Adam was……”very good”.

And she wasn’t “easily deceived”. She was “deceived” not because it was her nature to be stupid, but because she reacting incorrectly in that one instance when Satan tempted her and she allowed herself to get into a conversation justifying her behavior with him.
And we all, both male and female, do that.

Although I’ll disagree with her on points like the meaning of male headship (she briefly mention that in one sentence), she is right about this: Women are not more easily deceived. When we put aside our Bibles and act stupid like Scarlett did, we could be deceived – probably as easily as any man who does the same.

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Comments on: "Women are more easily deceived?" (7)

  1. Sadly, there are many men that seen very insecure in whom they are.

    The deliberate sinner is trying to tell the other gender they are gullible and deceived.

    I’m thankful I know men and women that ‘good’. Its to bad they refuse to see. It would set them free!

  2. Kristen said:

    90% of all the deceptive cults have been founded by men.

    Studies have shown that when a business has women alongside men in the leadership, the business is less likely to fail from the taking of short-sighted, stupid risks.

    Men and women balance one another when men allow women to use their brains and when men listen to women’s counsel.

    “Help” in the Hebrew tends to imply that the one who needs the help, not the one providing the help, is in the weaker position. The description of woman as “ezer kenego” (face-to-face help) is meant to counter the inference that the woman, being the “help,” is superior!

  3. Molly Hintz said:

    Paul addressed men and women in the Corinthian church, “But I am afraid that JUST AS Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.” 2 Cor. 11:3

    Paul seems to believe that men and women are equally susceptible to the serpent’s ways. As I have shared this scripture with both men and women, spiritual blindness seems to have lifted! It is obvious that gender is not the issue!

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  5. I stumbled across your blog doing some research. I’m afraid you may have tried to skew the Bible to meet what you wish it to say.

    You quoted one verse, saying it does not say what it says, without addressing context. Here is the passage…

    vs 11-15: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teachor to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.”

    It was “the woman” – not “women” – who was deceived, true. But Paul uses this to argue that womEn should not have authority over a man. And he uses it to lead into how womEn can undo the curse.

    If Paul is not saying that women are more easily deceived, what is the purpose of vs 14?

    • I indeed care about context, and discuss the rest of the passage in different places on this blog. See http://biblicalpersonhood.wordpress.com/tag/1tim2/ . What is more, I utterly hate it when people quote the passage without adding context – for example, when they quote “saved in childbirth” without the context of salvation by grace, not works.
      Read the passage again – if your Bible translation is good on this passage, it says “A womAn” (not womEn) should not teach or have authority over “A mAn.” Paul does not argue that womEn should not have authority over a man, but that A womAn should not. And the Greek also say she – “A womAn” – will be saved in childbearing, not womEn. That may sound to your English ears like he speaks of women, but in Greek, the language Paul wrote in, “a woman” probably referred to exactly that – a specific women Paul and Timothy whom he wrote these words to, knew.
      If this was about not teaching/ having authority because of easy deception, logic says the command would not have been about men/ a man, but a blanket command. If women are too easily decieved to teach or have authority, they would also be too easily decieved to teach/ have authority over children or other women.
      While we don’t really know why Paul connected it to Eve’s deception (one likely answer, considering the reigning religion of the region, is that this particular woman taught among others that women was made first and that the goddess of the region saves/ protects); but there are good reasons to not suggest, from this text, that women are more easily deceived.

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